When comfort disappears, who is your team, really?
There’s a moment on every expedition when talent stops mattering.
Our founder, James Castrission, has spent more time in that moment than almost anyone alive. In 2008 he and Justin Jones became the first people in history to kayak across the Tasman Sea — 62 days, unsupported, Australia to New Zealand. Four years later they completed the longest unsupported polar expedition ever attempted, to the South Pole and back.
This month, James sat down with Agency Podcast for a wide-ranging conversation about what those expeditions actually taught him — not about endurance, but about people.
Three ideas from the episode are worth carrying into your next Monday:
1. Resilience is trained, not inherited
The most common myth about high performers is that they were simply built tougher. They weren’t. Resilience is a practised response, not a personality trait — and that’s good news, because it means any team can develop it. On the ice, James and Justin didn’t summon courage in the moment; they had rehearsed their responses to failure so many times that staying calm became the default. The same is true of your team: what they do under pressure is whatever they’ve practised, not whatever they intend.
2. Systems beat willpower when conditions turn
You don’t rise to the ambition of your goal — you fall to the level of your systems. When the temperature drops and fatigue sets in, no one performs at their best; they default to their habits, processes and decision rules. High-performing teams win because the basics are solid: clear rhythms, defined ownership, simple processes that hold under stress. If your team has big aspirations but inconsistent results, look past the goal and into the system underneath it.
3. Trust is built before you need it
The moment you need to rely on someone is the worst possible moment to start building that trust. Expeditions force the issue early — you learn exactly who your team is long before the crisis. Most organisations do the opposite, discovering their trust gaps only when a restructure or a bad quarter exposes them. The teams that endure are the ones that invest in vulnerability-based trust while conditions are still calm.
You can listen to the full conversation on Apple or Spotify, or watch it on YouTube.
And if your leadership team is heading into its own uncharted stretch, that’s exactly the work we do — enquire about a keynote or Executive offsite.